tyance
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Post by tyance on Dec 4, 2008 19:12:22 GMT -5
Ok i was thinking, what would be so bad about having a moneyless economy where you could have what ever you wanted for free, and human-looking robots cared to your every whim and took over every human job imaginable!
If you think about, about all crimes:murders,theiving and others are money related, we would have nothing to want,because we already have everything.
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Post by scarletshadow on Dec 4, 2008 20:12:36 GMT -5
Well, it would get rid of crime, but the rest of the world would fall to pieces. First of all, if there isn't a reason to work, about 75% of people today would quit their jobs. Which means that the rest of the workforce would fall apart!
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Post by jtp9313 on Dec 5, 2008 9:05:55 GMT -5
You know, every country is the world is in debt...
If that's true, then where did all the money go anyway? I mean, it couldn't have disappeared all together. Someone had to get it.
But where did it go? Just a thought for your brain.
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tyance
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Post by tyance on Dec 5, 2008 18:22:48 GMT -5
but, see we could get robots, or something to do all the jobs, so humans wouldnt have to work, we would jut be served by robots
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tyance
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Post by tyance on Dec 5, 2008 18:24:02 GMT -5
That is very deep JTP but, deep is a good thing
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Post by scarletshadow on Dec 5, 2008 22:28:00 GMT -5
But if the workforce was robots, we would still need a human working them. I mean, someone has to design the robots. If we had robots designing robots then they would be a species all to themselves. Which means....
WORLD DOMINATION!
And I must also add that if people had no work to do, what would they do all day? Relaxing by a pool would be boring. If there was no money and anyone could have anything they wanted, then how could we make sure that one person didn't have everything?
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Post by katiebuggirl14/Romeo on Dec 8, 2008 8:50:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean if you think about it, robots who are desigined to act like humans, probably will get smart enough to kill us all and take over the world.
Really, could you just imagine that? One day, your cleaning bot, built to clean your home, just snaps and kills you with a mop? Somehow, that doesn't seem pleasant to me...
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tyance
Sir Lancelot
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Post by tyance on Dec 8, 2008 17:51:54 GMT -5
yeah i guess thats not a good thing, i still think it could work though.............
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mousemaylikecheese
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Post by mousemaylikecheese on Dec 19, 2008 13:48:36 GMT -5
We aren't all Ozites. Referring you to Communist history.... Referring you to Victor Hugo, re: solutions to economic problems, France, early 1800s...
Seriously, though, it wouldn't work because someone would have to design the robots and keep them working (I don't think that's particularly feasible anyway) and that wouldn't stop crime because someone would want more or someone who didn't like the scenario would go around killing people purely because they hate people or they're paranoid or whatnot.
Unworkable, I say.
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Post by kopachris on Mar 21, 2009 20:30:15 GMT -5
Actually, not all crimes are money-related. A lot of them are religion-related. First off, we don't have robots intelligent enough to take over our jobs yet, but if we did, it wouldn't be much of a problem. You've seen "I, Robot", right? Well, think "three laws", but without the evil robots-hurting-us-to-protect-us thing. But still, with no reason to work, things would definitely fall apart. No monetary system would only work after we as human beings get a single, common goal. In Star Trek, this goal is to explore the galaxy. Since they have replicators (which can make pretty much anything you want) most people go into Starfleet to help out with the "boldly going where no one has gone before" thing. So basically, not yet. We might be able to get rid of money some day, but not yet.
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tyance
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Post by tyance on Mar 31, 2009 19:25:54 GMT -5
Ohhhhhhhh. Sad..
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mousemaylikecheese
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Post by mousemaylikecheese on May 18, 2010 13:24:45 GMT -5
Despite the fact that this whole thing is dead, I am going to make a post. (Alas! I came over because I posted a picture of our studmuffin elsewhere)
More problems evident since I have been listening to Murray Rothbard: Scarcity: Money serves an important function in allocating resources. (That would also be part of the reason why depressions result when malinvestments made due to credit expansion cause a misaligned capital structure and resources are wasted)
AI: I hold that artificial intelligence will never have humanity.
Also, re: jtp's debt question.
I think what it must be is that nations are debtors to other nations, which are in turn in debt to yet other nations.
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